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"As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Great catch. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. But it doesnt make a nonsense of her being the shooter, regardless of their speculation. And shes were so happy. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). Deal refused. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. I dont think so. I dont think so. Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. Meticulous primping. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). Patricia Rorrer: An Update Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. Yassein Saids sentencing has been set for June 4. WebTexas-born Patricia ("Tissie) Said, formerly of the Owens family, is the mother who lured her two teenage daughters, Sarah and Amina, to their deaths at the hands of their own father A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. The womans whereabouts were relayed to law enforcement in Ross Township last year, Deputy Chief Brian Kohlhepp said. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. Still, no good leads materialized. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours from Riverside to Los Angeles and sit in court all day, Patricia said. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? Claps! Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? Prosecutors did not seek the death penalty, so Said was automatically sentenced to life in prison with no parole. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. "So it was relieving to get guilty verdict and get justice for these girls.". From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. I would have liked better her being put to death! They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Patricia Kopta Had Been Missing Since 1992. She Was Found in She was wrongfully convicted.. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. 5 years prior to all this happening! As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. The case was eventually abandoned. Highly charged case. What a contrived case! And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. Emailus. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. There was a push for a mistrial, but a 16-year prison sentence was negotiated instead. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. You should be ashamed of yourself. If the answer is no, enough said! Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. I have never seen anything this egregious., Requests for Proposals and Qualifications, Families to Amend California's Three Strikes (FACTS), life without possibility of parole (LWOP), National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), What California should do with people convicted of violent felonies, The Folsom 6 who stood up for Yogi are vindicated. He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. During the trial, the prosecutor said that the insurance reward would have been $180,000, which was totally exaggerated, said Arletta Wright, Patricias sister, who has been championing Patricias innocence from the beginning of Patricias time in prison. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? Lawyers pleaded their cases in closing arguments to 12 jurors and three alternates for nearly two hours Tuesday morning. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? And she will have to answer eventually. Jerry Browns office. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. She won't see them graduate from college. This is all BS.She did it. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. Patricia Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? They moved into her house in Salisbury County, staying together for about two years. I dont even know its Christmas.. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Crystal Carter is a Bay Area-based reporting fellow with the Center for Media, Crime and Justice in the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York (CUNY). Patricia It was just assumed to be crib death. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. . 2023 FOX Television Stations, Rockwall-Heath coach resigns after school workout investigation, Things to do this weekend in Dallas-Fort Worth: March 3-5, Dallas 14, 15-year-olds charged with murder, Prosper man who shot neighbor's pit bull will not face charges, Watch: New video from Hubble space telescope captures asteroid-smashing debris from successful DART mission, New street drug 'tranq dope,' rots skin, turns humans into 'zombies', 3 children killed, 2 hurt in Italy, Texas, Biden has cancerous skin lesion removed from chest, doctor says, Severe weather video and photos from around North Texas, Suspected North Texas scented candle thieves allegedly stole $27,774 worth of items. I hope she rots in hell. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Murdering Mother Hidden Face of Honor Killing That's counting the nine bullets you put in Sarah. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. Why isn't Patricia "Tissie" Said in jail for her role in this "honor I cant lose them, he told the media. Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Within about seven months of Larry being placed in a maximum-security prison, the LAPD paid him a visit. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Nine. All rights reserved. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. On December 12, 1994, Joann answered a phone call from a woman shed never met, Patricia Rorrer, her husbands onetime girlfriend. Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, Roughly nine months ago, Interpol contacted the police department that kept her file open. Said showed no emotion as the verdict was read. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. "Justice would have been the Irving Police Department doing their job," defense attorney Joe Patton said during closing arguments. . (Ross Township Police Department). He gave an audio interview to the Wrong Man investigators when they made a surprise visit to his house, but he declined to appear on camera. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. Guilty They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Nope. SHAME ON THEM. Patricia So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. Thanks for contacting us. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree In one entry, she writes that she has plans for people who have messed with her, and that "people will be surprised of what she is capable of," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren said. Amina Said's mother Patricia Owens Said was not charged with murder.