You are being redirected - Shooters' Forum Super cheap and easy to make and would likely be a very effective defense ammo against wildlife that might be a threat to me as the two balls will spread an inch or two from each other at close range. https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck?highlight=distinguished+++%2Bloads, Load question on Penn Bullets for Distinguished load. When I finally nabbed my own canisters of Bullseye, the first load I spun up was 2.7 grains under Hornadys hollow-base wadcutters. I dont own anything in .38 special yet, but I have plans to buy a .357 magnum revolver in near future, so I already reloaded couple thousands of rounds in .38 and .357. was a breeze. Do you folks think a start at 3.0 gr and work up from there with a 125 gr bullet would be a safe load. I use Bullseye powder but it's about the same burn rate. It would seem that a 125 grain GDHP is of the same weight and would have a similar profile to what you want to use. I dont mind it at all, though others do and look to similar performing powders that address these things. Modern .38 spl std HP load is more than enough, dont over think it. It was introduced in 1902 by Smith & Wesson, and has since become a worldwide cartridge. I found some data for 148 and 158 gr bullets but no published data on the 125s. Bullseye is the best powder I have found for 38 special. The instructors worked magic in many cases, but having a load like this to gradually work shooters onto full-strength loads would have been a great tool. 300 Blackout Fine-Tuning: Finding the Right Barrel Length for Your Rifle. Send the cylinder out to get cut for moon clips and adapted to 9mm, so you can shoot both 38/357/9mm and use all on moon clips. Just an FYI. Beginners to shooting can use a full size revolver or their carry gun with light to mild loads to become confident and familiar with marksmanship and trigger control. I started reloading 38 special as my first cartridge 8 years ago when I was 22, soooo.I have an old mans soul? I bought him as a gift a 642 with the black rubber grips, a few speedloaders w/big knob tops, and Hornady 125 grain FTX loads. I miss those days. The use of .38 +P+ level (25,000 27,500 psi) type reloads, in .357 brass. Bullseye Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=1, I also have the Berry's 125gr plated flat point bullet and I am trying to find a min and max load with unique powder. The cases are large enough that they can be easily manipulated by inexperienced hands and yet small enough to not require much force in the sizing stage. That being the case, I truly NEED as much ammunition as possible and the ability to defeat soft barriers such as auto windshields, sheet metal, drywall, doors, etc. Minnesota. With all the loads available, you can surely find one within recoil tolerance. If there is a search function for these forums (didn't see one) I'd be happy to use that too Go to the Alliant website and find the data for Unique and Bullseye. (bullseyeforum.net). Don't know of any bullets like that. For those folks shooting a lot of lead bullets, invest in a Lewis lead remover. As anyone learns quickly, first thing that needs to be done is to replace the small factory S&W grips (I use Hogue) so you can hold onto the gun. What sort of wildlife are you thinking would be a good application for this self-defense load? Posted March 2, 2013. Titegroup and 125gr 38 Special Load Data Note: More and more test are conducted with all rounds fired with powder UP against the primer for each shot, or DOWN on the bullet for each shot, then gently bring to horizontal to shoot. Any clues for powder and starting loads???? Ive been loading 158gr FMJ with Titegroup and the only problem Ive had is getting the seating depth right after the die locknut slipped. looks like today. 3.8 gr. Power Pistols works well in short auto cartridges and higher pressure cartridges but no so well with a 158 grain bullets in 38 Special. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. So, I'm guessing the pressure curve isn't as severe as some of the faster burners. And if youre doing that [shooting 158 grain bullets at 1200 fps muzzle velocity] with a snub.let me know I wanna watch you shoot em. The range (understandably) insisted you shoot their ammunition and the mildest they had was 158 grain LRN standard pressure. Oh, I practice with it. I too must be older than my years (35), as I love reloading .38SPL and have a S&W 442, S&W 36, and my most recent acquisition is a S&W 19-5 that is an absolute joy to shoot. So I'd think you should find a decent load for short line at about 700 Fps and for the long line at about 800. I have not loaded plated bullets in quite some time, since they are not useful for my accuracy needs. 38 special reloaders | The Firearms Forum Easy to reload and it started my reloading experience. This load is in the general velocity bracket with most generic or bulk box 115-grain loads and zings over my chronograph at 1,125 to 1,140 fps from a Glock 17, depending on bullet style. Its like a pellet gun with a little noise and smoke if using black powder. A circa 1918 Colt gobbled them up, as did several other 1911s that can be particular about bullet profile. My Ruger LCR .357 Magnum is pleasant to shoot even with full pressure loads. Then duplicate with reloads for practice. I just bought some 158 gr SWC bullets that are pure lead. . So if you find a "lead" load it is also a plated load. And for 99% of the actual real world needs of a citizen for self defense it will work just fine. I'm new to reloading, starting off with a single stage Lee press reloading .38 special and .357 magnum with Lee's 4 die carbide set. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges youd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. Working up a 38 Special load - xtreme 125gr + titegroup 38 spl.s. 1.) Think a lot of people would find that a .44 special or .45 Colt, in a decent revolver, a viable alternate to a pistol. I think the 158 lrn is more accurate then the swc but that's just me. I did 400 rounds in one afternoon on my Hornady progressive. How does WST compare to Bullseye powder? Hit the Bullseye with Bullseye: Classic Loads from a Classic Powder - SWAT I can shoot this load at speeds I cant normally reach with .45. Reloading supplies and load recipes are available everywhere. Data will be standard "book" .38 Special data and I'll not attempt to "hotrod" the loads. Red Dot 38 Special - Gunloads.com Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Hodgdon - 700-X: 125 gr. hebyta Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. Regulator, SBSS #2255, Pawnee Station, Ro I & II. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. of Bullseye, 148 gr lead DEWC and Federal 100 primers. Use the lead bullet loads with the plated and you will be fine. Reloading Data .38 Special (Using Hornady Bullets) Metallic This is good, because the snub takes a lot of practice to have a consistent capability. Loading the .38 Spl. & .357 Mag. - An Official Journal Of The NRA The least is usually supplied as a large cylindrical billet weighing several hundred pounds. more weight than the similar size CA .44 Bulldog, were available, a lot more people would also like the .44 spl. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion. Its the only gun that has appreciated in value (as long as you ignore inflation). I have found that if you go down too low in charge you will have some ignition issues occasionally. Its worth mentioning that loaders do all kinds of obsessive rituals to squeeze the groups down. 01-10-2014, 06:49 PM #4. dverna. Nickle cases look pretty but dont seem to take the number of resizings that plain brass cases do. I did find a 145 grain Lead HP with a rounded ogive (like the last NyClad) on Gunbroker that opens really well if you get above 800 fps. Not in that order. * All PLUS P loads for guns designed for it (20,000 PSI), (Cowboy loads shot in 7 1/2 bbl.revolver no need to reduce), ALL THESE LOADS ARE PLUS P, SPECIAL HOT 21,000 PSI. is so simple. Swaged bullets do not have the hardness of poured (cast) lead. My M60 came w/ factory banana grips- open back, long enough for pinkie rest but too small in girth behind the trigger guard. DR loads (158gr Remington swaged LSWC over 3.6gr AA#2 in Winchester .38 Special cases) I shoot American eagle, remington factory,remington umc, and mag tech. Bonus is that dont need magnum Primers for these reloads. 38 special , bullseye, and 125 grain lead rnfp - The Firing Line load is 4.4 grains for 38 special and 5.0 grains is a +P load. Load cut these cards at five yards out of this Model 15. ammunition in the same gun enables that shooter to hunt larger game and to fend off beasts that snarl. L6: 1.550 inch = 39.37 mm Barrel Length : 2.0 inch = 50.8 mm Powder : Hodgdon HP38 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. Recoil was so nasty that I quit after five shots and saved the rest of the box for my 6 Model 19 .357. (This is prevalent among most aftermarket designs- they are smallest in the longest, strongest finger area, and largest at the bottom pinkie area.). 357 Magnum 35,000 .38 Special is a lot more comfortable in a service size revolver like my Model 10. Since we are working with a gun that doesnt have a magazine, we can afford to mess with this dimension at will. WST is less dense than BE. SASS# 85224. Load manuals often advise against downloading .38 Special jacketed loads to prevent squibs, especially the 110 and 125 grain bullets. Thanks for the excellent article, Josh! Accurates No. I prefer the slower burning Unique, and I also use it for .357 magnum, just more of it. A chameleon depending on your loads and the barrel length or action its fired from. Red Dot work fine for most 38 Special loads. I've tried 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2. Soft shooting. Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide Id pay at least a dollar to see it. I buy 158 SWCHP all the time.my main bullet. Maybe its just my age, but I may never shoot a 38 again after discovering the 32. Jack it up a notch and go with .327 Federal Magnum. I have some W231 that I use for my .38 super. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. The Charter Arms .44 models are potential CCWs, but are too light to properly handle the .44 spl.