"Queer Eye" star Karamo Brown recently told INSIDER that he thinks the beloved film about a gay relationship, " Call Me by Your Name ," is "problematic as f---." Homestuck is the full power of the Internet refocused into an artistic and storytelling force the likes and scale of which I havent seen attempted again. The comics before Homestuck, particularly Problem Sleuth, were largely based on community inputs, and I believe certain parts of Homesutck initially were as well (this was before my time). I will just go ahead and read through the Google Docs about Hussie being terrible and comment every time I have something to say. As he comes to better understand and accept himself for who he is, the homophobia fades from his vocabulary, he opens up to people, and allows more of his vulnerabilities to show though. However, back when HS was being written, it was OK to say the word. At its peak, the comic entertained roughly 600,000 readers a day, and inspired one of the most robust cult followings of a generation fans filled convention floors with cosplays of the characters and filled online forums and websites like Tumblr full of fan art. The key to defeating him lies instead in a magical artifact in the shape of Homestucks logo. The Meat timeline is obviously canon, because for Lord Englishs demise to make any sense, John needed to have gone back and plugged in the missing parts of the story. It was meant to be a joke about the character suddenly having an actual skin color instead of a pure white one. Sprouts' operating income surged 20% to $62 million. A quick search on Reddit reveals dozens of threads discussing questions like What happened to andrew hussie? and other posts tracking the creators activity on social media platforms like Tumblr. The alive version of this character is cute, but mostly useless. Dynamic Programming is a method of solving problems that represent a specific structure where a problem can be broken down into subproblems which are again similar to the original problem. 164 Followers. In Candy, everyone gets redemption arcs, and were told everyone lives happily ever after, but its the more brutal of the two options. ALL trolls have horns. When Homestuck was going through the Trickster Arc in Act 6 Act 5 Act 2, there was a conversation between Jake and Jane just after Jane went into Trickster Mode, and just before Jake went into it. The solid sales performance also lifted the food retailer's profit margins. Point 1.5: Many of the arguments presented in the document hinge on the idea that inclusion means approval (see Point 1). Or like how this first conversation between John and Terezi is way different knowing John spends his dying breaths bleeding out, poisoned, hate-fucking Terezi in the back of his dads Sedan. A subreddit for Homestuck and the works of Andrew Hussie. Its not like every single thing that ever happened in the decades-long span the Candy timeline took place is available for us to read. I'm on the same boat here. Feferi's weight. March 3, 2023. (As he puts it, its about the things its about.) The story presents a modern path to revolution in which the catalyst for the overthrow of an imperialist system is not the military strongmen of old, but a young woman with social media savvy. After the epilogues to the story released in April 2019, the story stands at just over 1 million words. All tags have a real use in the text. Being a recluse can suppress cultism in some ways (by not having someone at the top constantly throwing red meat to a hungry base, which inflames obsession and radicalism), Hussie said, but in other ways I think cryptid [sic] behavior can intensify cultism. This has of course produced some backlash within the community. And then the monsters came. And then they got in a rocket.. This translates into the way Meenahs character is written, being the younger version of HIC shes shown to be the sassy black girl stereotype. The character doesn't exist though, the author made them say it. This Mo Black guy seems to know what hes talking about, you think. In Candy, shes this pushy, horny, clueless woman with alarmingly dubious ideas surrounding consent, who pushes her friends away and pressures Dave in marrying her, preventing him from living out the fact that hes gay. Gross Margin. Copyright issues; unlike many, more mainstream (and powerful) content producers who kind of give convention artists alleys the big shrugaroo, a small buisness like What Pumpkin LLC, the company that sells Homestuck merchandise, does not have the luxury of being able to afford turning a blind eye to fan produced content, and is thus very strict about people selling fanmade Homestuck content. I say this not to deride bi women but to state that it is uncomfortable to base the character who's whole deal is being a lesbian to the point her name phonetically is L word to be based on a bi woman. Media can be challenging, but largely it offers a totally safe place for people to indulge, express and investigate ideas they would NEVER do in real life and therefore does NOT always reflect an individual's real life views. I wrote in second person. I dont know what to say or think about any of this at this point. So, no matter how much the story frustrates me or how disappointed I get, I feel like I have to look at it in some way. I see that like "are you crazy? When people say BUT TEREZI MAKES FUN OF HERSELF, it is not really a valid defense of the blind jokes, because of who is actually making those jokes. Due to fans arguing over the race of characters Hussie put in a joke in which one of the characters (jane) says "I feel so caucasion" when she's in trickster mode. Besides, I covered my opinions on incest above. Every single one of those tags appears somewhere in the story, including but not limited to: unhealthy relationships, graphic depictions of violence, transphobia, rape, major character death, and (may God help us all) eggs. WebAnswer random questions and Ill give you a Lana del ray lyric that will reveal a deep truth about you. Dividend Yield. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. So, you are saying I can't write about people who are not me? (Talking about sniffing Marvus) So, we are kinkshaming now? Eventually, she goes on to write a widely read manifesto; taking the reins of a militant revolutionary group that wears goth clown makeup. It is problematic in that it presents characters with unlikeable traits in a positive light, problematic in the way it jokes about very serious subjects like abuse and murder, The single most respectful moment in Terezis portrayal is when she has the opportunity to have her blindness cured. A confirmation hes referring to Kanayas lesbian identity as the fetish he remarked from above. Sprouts' operating income surged 20% to $62 million. She is the only female (and carapacian) member of the Felt, and is one of the three members whose name is not printed entirely in green, the "o" being printed in black to resemble an 8 ball itself. I asked Hussie if he thinks everyone should just log off. Mabye I am just dumb, but I didn't notice. Dogfighting is a type of blood sport in which dogs are forced to fight one another for the entertainment and/or profit of spectators. It's a violent as hell culture created for a single purpose: victory. Hussie didn't make John and Karkat et al drop the r word to say anything about them, that's just a word he himself used to use, so his characters did too. (But please, don't jsut say that "it's morally wrong" and then not explain how. ships, god tier classpect theories, and vriska seem to be the biggest controversies. OK, so who cares how old they were when they died? When it was met with backlash, whatpumpkin changed his answer to spades/snowman, You know what? WebAnswer random questions and Ill give you a Lana del ray lyric that will reveal a deep truth about you. Both options ultimately leave someone somewhere dissatisfied. There was some controversy when homestuck first came out. So Im almost made to feel bad for even entertaining John/Roxy as an idea in the first place if the results were to be this disastrous for everyone involved. You know where else that happens? Every bit of it is there in order to prepare the troll kids for the game. Damara speaks in broken english, and her japanese is straight from google translate. Actually, my favorite thing about the webcomic: Homestuck is acutely aware that it exists on the Internet, and exploits that fact to its fullest capacity. WebThe implosion of Silvergate Bank has a lot to do with the fact that it was crypto's bank of choice. Point 1: Homestuck is 'problematic' in the way that many people are beginning to dislike. According to multiple reports, many users of DISH network services are facing issues during the authentication or login process to the companys platform. Technically, a lack of masking is a presentation issue a sign that a theater no longer cares but it can lead to projection problems, too. DISH network users facing authentication or login issues. And then theres this game in the mail. It wasn't even that funny! In addition, his disability is usually synonymous with the fact that Tavros is considered by the characters around him to be a loserTavros as a loser in his social circle, combined with his disability, make him a common object of ridicule. This is not so much directed at you, fiveforchaos, but since this sort of misconception comes up frequently I figured I might as well step in. Gross Margin. Buckets, apparently someone threw one at a Karkat at a convention. Theres enough music that the music references itself as you move through the story, creating a kind of self-contained musical canon. But how much is that purpose worth? Commedia Doll'Arte People generally overlook when boys are sexualized, (examples, all the shirtless art of the boys of BNHA, the entire Free series, etc.). Agreed. All that being said, and the despite the two months its been since the epilogues first came out, I dont think I have an opinion on them that can be reduced to I liked them or I hated them. Question: do thirteen year old girls have boobs? But discussing inefficiencies and difficulties doesnt automatically translate to grumbling, but can be constructive and even strengthen bonds. What is this threat? Why didn't you mention that one? Read it on a computer. Dirk, though, happens not to subscribe to Uncle Bens mantras about power and responsibility. But then again, being straight is also like a fetish to trolls. I had no idea what Tab was, for example. Here's a post discussing it. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is the latest product to feel the review bomb burn. than to disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed. Vriska herself is a huge controversy (i.e. He who is without sin may cast the first stone. Ever heard of that? As it goes in the story, she was drunk driving, and after the cop gets physical with her, she grabs the gun from his holster and shoots. I can come to my own conclusions. N/A. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. A hole in plot, if you will. The NSFW route, hes a complete douchewad, bullying Lynera and trying to pressure you into drugs and sex. Some may argue that this forces the comic to be perpetually out of date, but Id argue the opposite. WebWell, another problem: Homestuck isnt really hypertext fiction. Never read that, so I can't judge it. Its a contemporary text that carries the history of Hussies work and online life for better and for worse. If it is morally wrong, I want explanations.). Habitat for Humanity calls this sweat equity, which is a required part of the program participants must gain hundreds of hours of volunteer work by helping build homes. Dirk is Homestucks ultimate villain. Set aside time just as you would for reading every novel, but be prepared to set aside much more of it. In response, the YouTuber made a video about their threat, which according to the legal document shared by the Sarah Z cited false, speculative claims, propelling the matter even further into the public theater. But if you want me to be more upfront about casual forth wall disintegration than I already have, I can humor you. It loosely correlates with my past experience of presiding over a big fandom and watching it spin out of control, using much more fantastical elements like revolution and global conquest as the backdrop. Music is so integral to the experience of Homestuck Id argue the story doesnt work without it. 1.4K Takers Personality Quiz. Time to be controversial here. Calliope isnt the protagonist to Dirks antagonism, they are equal and opposite forces that corrode the narrative from different directions. Yes. Y'know, Homestuck at its core is a comic about being extremely Online [laughs] in a way that I think a lot of things in both the webcomic and the traditional comics base before and even since haven't touched as well. And then that ability comes in handy when the eight kids and the original players lose the game again. OK, I don't think I can say much about basing lesbian characters on bi people, because I am not an expert on that, but none of that even matters. No one needs me to tell anyone this, but stories can always serve as reminders.. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I honestly don't feel qualified to say. Some controversy came from the fact that two people donated 10,000 dollars to it to essentially have their fan characters get 1 panel cameos in the comic. i have the moral authority. Oh that's what you meant. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Andrew Hussie, the reluctant cult leader, on life after Homestuck, Sign up for the The interactive story of Homestuck strung out to epic proportions it is over 8,000 pages long and ran from 2009 until 2016. This doesn't excuse every instance, but Homestuck generally invites its readers to think critically about what's being said. I'm not really interested in Thermian arguments; trolls aren't real, Hussie created them that way for a reason. Or perhaps the second option catches your eye. I dont know. And then the time boss totally starts wrecking up the multiverse like its no ones business. Many fans were already disappointed with the comics canon ending. Okay, so the plot hole is also a cue ball and the whole story is pool and chess and I think blackjack. Like, I didnt even mention how many of these fuckers die along the way. Enjoying or creating 'problematic' media does not equate to endorsement. And then theres this whole other universe filled with aliens, Trolls, who already played it. Sure, I guess. Or is Nepeta actually autistic? And then John implies that its maybe Jakes fault for letting it get as bad as it did? Web1,362,830. Its also an allegory for what Im doing presently with Psycholonials. See, I love how I can just type stuff like that and it makes sense still. I like my complaints like I like my inception, always going one level deeper. We did investigate it. umm?" Question: Hey hiveswap team and @skullmandible, confirm Lanque as a trans boy yes/no? WebHomestuck has three characters with definite disabilitiesTavros, Terezi, and Solluxthough for the purposes of this article, I will focus on Tavros and Terezi as, ever since Sollux has become blind, we simply have not had much screen time with him to merit analysis EDIT: Let me clarify here. As long as he is in a certain proximity of the storys events, he not only becomes the narrator (literally already been done), but the author himself, capable of willing events into the story simply by narrating them to himself. and the other half is him being completely oblivious to what the original poster means. But I am going to assume you mean the timeline Davesprite came from. At times it is as if the text is saying that since Tavros is not normal because of his disability, he is not normal to society in general, as well. But, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. Let's go: Meenah died at 19, this iteration of Vriska died at 13. So its not that Im saying fandom is all bad, instead Id just say that the appearance of anything positive about fandom should be treated with suspicion, and as if it could become destructive at any moment for any reason. It is easy to wonder how connected the two things are, and to wonder why one of the very, very few disabled characters has to also be a social outcast. why are you playing with those dangerous girls?". There's just about one for every group. Are many of them flawed? But I want it to be more than an audio FAQ, I want it to be a bit of pseudo-documentary on the fandom as well. WebHomestuck tends to congregate in large groups that can cause problems at conventions. Here appears another symptom of ableismthat of the view that persons with disabilities need to be fixed in order to fit in with normal society. Article continues below advertisement. Just more things: more plot, more dialogue, more mechanics, more characters, more questions, on and on and on and on until it just runs out of breath and falls over. I've been dealing with this stuff for years--just this very small, specific subset of the law in question--and I still ask our legal counsel for clarification or confirmation fairly often, because it's not always straightforward. The language used might seem lamentable to a young person today, but much of Homestuck is a product of its time. Especially assholes brazen enough to supply your own thoughts to you with a subtle perspective shift from first to second person. In her article, How Twitter can ruin a life Emily VanDerWerff tells the story of an anonymous writer turned enemy of the internet, and how just a pseudonym and a birth year gave people on Twitter enough fuel to bully the author out of writing. Conspiracy theories, outright fabrications, connecting dots on whatever precious facts are known to paint whatever picture the theorizer wants to paint. Also, Hussie's author commentary say that it is "probable" for her to be autistic. He forces Jake to admit he loves him just to get the satisfaction of embarrassing him and destroying his heart, and he consistently and purposefully misgenders Roxy. 36.87%. Press J to jump to the feed. Im not sure if fondly is the word Id use here, but I can regard it. Im all for fair criticism, but this aint it. Or you read a lot of Twilight and now you cant escape allure of urban fantasy erotica with alarmingly dubious ideas surrounding consent. What Pumpkin LLC is the business in question, not Andrew himself. used to say caucasian before it was changed to peachy). But the Song of Ice and Fire series is twice as long by wordcount, and that's not even finished. Yes, but so are the men. that's all i'm saying. The epilogues were poorly received among some fans for a variety of reasons. Also, others tormented Tavros as well? It seems to be about storytelling, social justice, and some character from a fairly popular piece of Japanese animation you may or may not have heard of? Streamers have to become increasingly savvy about the need to defend personal boundaries without provoking the ire of fans. Troll society is vastly different from human society. First, Tavros Nitram is treated abhorrently in Homestuck; his disability (he is in a wheelchair, paralyzed from the waist down) is oftentimes depicted in a hilarious way to try and make the audience laugh. WebHomestuck is bad because the fandom makes it seem like Vriska genuanly got punishment for all the awful things she did by getting punched twice and feeling bad when in actuality she deserved to get killed off and never spoken about again. This is that second one though. "The Help" became the most-watched movie on Netflix over the past week, according to their US trend bar. Take later. EVERYONE IS DEAD). Still, I think after a bit, writers that stick with it eventually realize these early influences never leave them. Homestuck fan here, It did, by the way. And then they have a kid who she abuses. Umm no. He doesnt let characters act like their nature would suggest, and instead manipulates them to fulfill some larger purpose. What do you think? Her "whole deal is being a lesbian"? I don't really care about homestuck drama, it is a product of its time as another comment said but.. OP seems vastly unaware of a lot of social issues to be "responding" to this drama. Hussie said he returned to the 140,000 word long draft, cut the story in half, and tried to make it feel like something legitimately worth reading to anyone who crossed the full span of 2020s madness.. It is not a document promoting real-life rape and murder. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. Homestuck tends to congregate in large groups that can cause problems at conventions. Secondly, much of what the document draws attention to are things criticised within the text. Not formally, and nowhere near as dangerous as more conventional cults can be, but close enough to draw meaningful comparisons. A particularly long entry in a book series can get up to 200 thousand words. There exists a possibility of me being a pizza. Whatever. Its not that I think people should, its that everyone already knows they should, he said. Point is there are lots of the same character running around always. Terezi wanted them to be "L1K3 4 Also, (controversy incoming) in my honest opinion, as long as you don't have children, there's nothing wrong about incest. Kismessitudes really were just abusive relationships (we never saw a healthy example, the "dead ringer" of a black romance, Spades Slick and the troll's Black Queen, has BQ stab Slick in the eye and cut off his hand and Slick later shooters her. "Babyed or harassed"? The Meat author, portrayed here by Dirk, is hyper-focused on moving the plot forward. A first-time sci-fi or fantasy novel can be around 100 thousand. I mean it is a book, so it technically is porn? But those with more of an anti-cult stance, which describes myself, will occupy the position reluctantly.. Likewise Mindfang's joyous rape-and-murder spree of a memoir is discussed in text (And it's never graphic. And then his dead sister, Calliope, from another timeline where she becomes super strong, shows up to try and stop him. I couldn't even tell he was meant to be trans. Heck, people are still debating troll genitalia). Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty is the latest product to feel the review bomb burn. Example: MLP makes money not only by merchandising but also by ad sales, etc. Will they ever cease? And then there are all the people who cant shroud themselves in secrecy. If not for the fact they made her into a Jewish stereotype. What the actual fuck are you talking about? To beat the game, they have to interact with the game worlds characters, and with a disgruntled group of internet trolls. If so, then there's nothing "wrong" with that, because they had no way of knowing they are related. But Homestuck isn't about fan inclusion for the sake of happy-fun-creating together, it's about WHY we might want to do that and a host of other things. I don't really care and didn't know about this before I skimmed this but you seriously didn't notice Meenah and HIC talked stereotypically black? Incest - all trolls are biologically "related" Incest isn't a problem for them. WebDreamWorks. Where does this leave a generation that grew up online, many of whom were devout Homestuck readers? nothing you have written is debunking anything, it's just you saying you don't agree/see it. I haven't seen a single person defend Zebruh. Regardless, the intense gaze of the man in the thumbnail dares you to go on and see what the hell this is all about. According to the definitions posted above, ableism occurs when society considers the non-disabled as the standard for living, and the disabled are marginalizedand Tavros is constantly marginalized as an other throughout his presence in Homestuck. I have no official connection with the work. A cryptid leader leaves a major vacuum of content, direction, messaging, personal information, all the stuff a frenzied cultist craves. And the world ends. Hell no. Alternia, at least at first, is a dark joke about our real-world society. She spends extra time on characters feelings and their conversations with each other, much to the annoyance of Dirk. I read the links, and I don't see it. I remember having an unsettled feeling in the early days of the pandemic, Hussie told Polygon over email, seeing that probably hundreds of thousands of people were about to die due to a willful mishandling of the crisis, and the population appeared very listless, as if it was about to sit back and let that happen without putting up much of a fight., Hussie decided that the comatose feeling America was giving him would make a good foil for a much more outlandish, escapist sort of revolutionary scenario that examined what such a revolt might look like in this era.. Like I oughta. Except, https://www.homestuck.com/story/386 has this to say: EB: that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion, i am just saying that being a white guy who is a rapper with a ventriloquist doll is not cool by any stretch of the imagination or by any definition of word cool, ironic or otherwise. Two friends who realize they see each other as something more I live for that kind of stuff when its done right. What video games and movies dont depict correctly is the insane recoil automatic fire causes. Even if you make the argument that karkat and vriska are technically adults now, we only saw that in the epilogue. The fact that Homestuck isn't an anime makes them unpopular at anime conventions, despite things like video game and doctor who costumes being accepted in part because of their large numbers. His comic, Homestuck, published under the website MS Paint Adventures, followed a group of teens who accidentally brought about the end of the world with a copy of a video game. With some of the claims, I doubt the author has even read homestuck, because they are clearly missing the context of the scenes. Its a story that grows up with the Internet itself, and, by extension, a story about the Internet, how it changes, how we change it, and how it changes us. I welcome it. Stelsa should only be written by someone Jewish. The protests began, police stations started burning down, and it all felt pretty surreal, because Id just spent a month writing about situations that looked a lot like this. WebRead MS Paint Adventures. Please check your email to find a confirmation email, and follow the steps to confirm your humanity. This is basically what I did, and these two ideas mix together in the narrative., Prior to releasing this story, Hussie struggled to pinpoint what his brand was as the creator of Homestuck. And finally heres the part that really seals the deal. Imagine flipping through one book that size. All my pieces are addressed to the reader directly, though some admittedly more so than others. The Candy author on the other hand, represented by Calliope, cares little for if whats happening on screen is important or not. (not sure on the proper wording for this, if theres better wording let me know and ill change it) As a result of his accident, he is constantly babyed or harassed by other characters. Peachy is a better joke anyway (because fruits). I don't think writing off Hussie as a person for his work is at all fair. And he called himself on it too. yes. I don't think writing off the whole webcomic as worthless because it's 'problematic' is smart either. They all have the same mother (Grub). In both the SFW and NSFW route, there was no mention of him being trans. Asaresult, the narrative remains incomplete and unstable, and the relevance of key events is questioned all together. By the time I was up to date with Homestuck, it was a fair ways in and even then I didn't really participate in the fandom so no event is too big or too obvious to mention. Ending: I love Homestuck. When users affected by the problem try to access the DISH network system, all they get is a System is currently We were weirdly concerned with fundamental narrative principles at the time, more so than little kids had any right to be. Webit has some stuff that aged poorly and is very typical of the comedy and internet culture at the time that it was written.